It’s never good when you all want to talk to us,” Fox Sports rules analyst Mike Pereira joked Thursday before sitting down for the network’s media day at the Super Bowl. The theory that NFL officials go out of their way to favor the Chiefs has steadily spread as Kansas City approaches its third consecutive Super Bowl.

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Allegations of NFL referees favoring Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs have fueled online conspiracy theories, but FOX’s Mike Pereira and other officiating experts say there’s no evidence of bias.

Mike Pereira walked out to his spot during Fox’s media day and was greeted by a larger contingent of reporters than usual for an officiating expert when there were Super Bowl-winning coaches and players around the room.

Ahead of Super Bowl LIX, Pereira shared his thoughts on how officials block out fan perceptions of a Chiefs bias.