Tom Hardy appeared on “The Discourse Podcast” from The Playlist and confirmed that a crossover between Venom and Tom Holland’s Spider-Man “got as close as I could possibly imagine getting” before falling apart.

As the rumor mill continues to churn out speculation about a long-awaited Venom and Spider-Man crossover, Tom Hardy has come through with an official update. Before you get your painties (or web-slingers) in a twist,

Ultimately, of course, Hardy’s Venom never did meet Holland’s Spidey. The Discourse Podcast host, Mike DeAngelo, speculated it could have come down to studio politics; without fully conceding, Hardy affirmed carefully to the suggestions, “for all the reasons that you explained ultimately in there.”